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  Sample Disassociation Letter please?

  by LifesNotOver in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i want to send a disassociation letter to the elders at my old congregation.

  how do i address it and what wording do i use?

  i know it's not something i have to do, it's symbolic for me.

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  Lee Elder

  It is rare in this life that something is "always" the best or worst, etc. We all have unique situations. Personally, if I would have disassociated when I left, there would be a lot of people still actively in the organization that are now out. Due to the fact that many "JWs" continued to think of me as a "JW" and an elder, I was able to have a level of influence I would not have otherwise had. Family relationships were also easier. This is a personal decision each person has to make, and its not for anyone else to second guess in my view. That said, its not something to be decided on a whim or based on emotion. Simply weigh the pros and cons, and make the call that is best in your situation.
  
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  Sample Disassociation Letter please?

  by LifesNotOver in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i want to send a disassociation letter to the elders at my old congregation.

  how do i address it and what wording do i use?

  i know it's not something i have to do, it's symbolic for me.

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  Lee Elder

  My suggestion: Don't do it. Don't play their game. Ignore their rules. Simply don't see the upside with the strategy. Just distance yourself. They will figure it out soon enough and shun you anyway.
  
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  U.K. Article: Blood transfusion refusals – why new guidelines aren’t up to scratch

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://theconversation.com/blood-transfusion-refusals-why-new-guidelines-arent-up-to-scratch-70237.

  blood transfusion refusals – why new guidelines aren’t up to scratch .

  february 22, 2017. blood transfusions are a common and often lifesaving procedure.

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  The undue influence is more related to the Watchtower and its members. With respects to the medical community, its more complex, but still problematic and troubling imo.
  
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  U.K. Article: Blood transfusion refusals – why new guidelines aren’t up to scratch

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://theconversation.com/blood-transfusion-refusals-why-new-guidelines-arent-up-to-scratch-70237.

  blood transfusion refusals – why new guidelines aren’t up to scratch .

  february 22, 2017. blood transfusions are a common and often lifesaving procedure.

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  I can see a number of problems with these guidelines. There is certainly much useful information, but some serious deficiencies as well. While much can be said in terms of the benefits of respecting personal belief, and cooperating with individuals in their exercise of their beliefs; the level of cooperation that is readily apparent between Watchtower officials and the authors of these guidelines is deeply troubling. Asking someone to reject certain types of blood transfusions (and permit many others) is a very serious matter. Thousands of lives hang in the balance.

  Medical ethicists and AJWRB (ajwrb.org) have for nearly two decades shed light on the level of coercion, duress and undue influence imposed by Watchtower on members to enforce compliance. The notion that a JW (particularly one raised in the religion) possess the capacity to make a free and informed choice is inconceivable to anyone who is fully informed.

  WT officials continue to expand their influence in the medical community to try and mainstream their irrational views on the use of blood products. As the larger story becomes fully known, they are likely to regret their efforts at accommodation.
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  Was There ANYTHING Positive That You Experienced Because of Being a JW?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  was there anything positive about your jehovah's witness experience?.

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  John McCain could probably find something positive from his experience as a POW.
  
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  Another Young JW dead during childbirth

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the latest young jehovah's witness mother to die in childbirth by following the terrible medical advice of watchtower writers.. https://www.niyitabiti.net/2017/02/nigerian-jehovah-witness-allegedly-dies-of-excess-bleeding-during-child-birth-because-church-doesnt-permit-blood-transfusion/.

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  http://pulse.ng/gist/woman-dies-at-childbirth-after-refusing-blood-transfusion-id6175473.html?fb_action_ids=1779392782386704&fb_action_types=og.comments
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  Another Young JW dead during childbirth

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the latest young jehovah's witness mother to die in childbirth by following the terrible medical advice of watchtower writers.. https://www.niyitabiti.net/2017/02/nigerian-jehovah-witness-allegedly-dies-of-excess-bleeding-during-child-birth-because-church-doesnt-permit-blood-transfusion/.

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  The latest young Jehovah's Witness mother to die in childbirth by following the terrible medical advice of Watchtower writers.

  https://www.niyitabiti.net/2017/02/nigerian-jehovah-witness-allegedly-dies-of-excess-bleeding-during-child-birth-because-church-doesnt-permit-blood-transfusion/
  
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  Trinity...cross...Does it matter?

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been thinking about this for a while.. did jesus diee on a cross?

  does it really matter?

  it doesn't change anything that i can see.. is god a trinity?

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  No...it doesn't matter imo. Beliefs don't matter. Behavior matters. Keep love as your highest value....everything else is chaff on the threshing floor.
  
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  Ex wife getting a heart operation

  by greenhornet in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  my kids mother is getting a new heart valve.

  there upset because she is making sure no blood is to be used and her jw cronies will be with her making it hard for my kids even to visit her in the hospital.

  can jws get a pigs heart valve now and is her request by having no blood make this procedure difficult for the surgin for a successful operation?.

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  Encourage your kids to study these two resources, commit as much as possible to memory, and discuss the main points with her using questions to draw her out.

  http://ajwrb.org/watchtower-approved-blood-transfusions

  http://ajwrb.org/do-jehovahs-witnesses-really-abstain-from-blood

  Ultimately, they have to respect her choice, but they certainly have both a right, and a responsibility to try and be sure that it is an informed, and voluntary choice. The same can be said of the doctor that is treating her.
  
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  Ex wife getting a heart operation

  by greenhornet in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  my kids mother is getting a new heart valve.

  there upset because she is making sure no blood is to be used and her jw cronies will be with her making it hard for my kids even to visit her in the hospital.

  can jws get a pigs heart valve now and is her request by having no blood make this procedure difficult for the surgin for a successful operation?.

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  Lee Elder

  To use an analogy, its like choosing to walk a tight rope with no safety net. The single most important thing that can happen is for her doctor to have a private conversation with her to check her understanding of the WT blood policy, and her level of commitment to it. Simply asking questions about why the policy permits so many types of blood transfusions, yet bans others, has been enough to open many minds to what is clearly an "organizational" policy. Her children, and doctor can be pointed to the references and tools at www.ajwrb.org